TNC31S(SYMEK) installing advice
This is a TNC31S(SYMEK) installing advice.
I'm most grateful to Ulf Kumm, DK9SJ for many kindness advice.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2001 20:30:00 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp]
To: ulf@symek.de
Subject: TNC31S
Hello Ulf,
I re-installed correctly IFD and TS790 modification,
and I could hear 430MHz signal with good S-meter. Thank you.
Well, I powered on TNC31S pressing the internal reset-button
while connecting the power, because I had a terminal program
corresponding to only 19200baud.
And I had erased all files in Flash-EPROM using flash command.
After these work, when applying power to the TNC31s, the following
message is appeared and is not appeared '*' prompt. This message is
appeared similarly in RS.EXE program.
r:>baud rate 19200, 1 start 1 stop, parity no
r:>Error 17 - Program not found
Which files in TNC31S-Disc shall I send again into EPROM(128 Kbytes)
to appear '*' prompt ? I would like to define my callsign, and
new baudrate(57600baud etc), txdelay, time and so on.
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:09:52 +0100
From: "Ulf Kumm" [ulf@symek.de]
To: "Mineo Wakita" [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp]
Subject: Re: TNC31S
> I re-installed correctly IFD and TS790 modification,
> and I could hear 430MHz signal with good S-meter. Thank you.
Good morning dr OM Mineo!
congrats for this!
> Well, I powered on TNC31S pressing the internal reset-button
> And I had erased all files in Flash-EPROM using flash command.
OK. Now the Flash is empty.
Only the operating system is still stored in the protected
area of the flash. If you list 'LL', no files are shown.
> After these work, when applying power to the TNC31s, the following
> message is appeared
> r:>baud rate 19200, 1 start 1 stop, parity no
> r:>Error 17 - Program not found
I do not understand why the first line appears.
It looks as if you have a DIP1.scr file stored in RAM
which sets the baudrate to 19200. Better erase the RAM
too by executing rm *.*
second line: The DIP1.scr tries to start e.g. TF.ap from flash
but cannot find it there.
Pse do the following steps:
1. (DOS or Windows): load DIP1.scr from diskette into notepad or
similar text editor
2. modify DIP1.scr to show like:
cd r:\
path r:\
rsconf 19200 1 no (or other speed if you like)
tf (starting TF firmware)
3. store the modified file to C:\tmp\DIP1.scr (or somewhere else)
4. run RS from TNC3 disc. Prompt r: appears
5. clear TNC RAM (list with LL and remove with rm)
6. flash -ae C:\tmp\dip1.scr (erase flash and store new DIP1.scr)
7. flash -a A:tf.apl (store TF from TNC3disc)
for the first, this will do.
Instead of TF you may program TNC3BOX as well.
For satellite use, you should (later) add RSKISS and change
DIP1.scr from TF or TNC3BOX to RSKISS accordingly.
> Which files in TNC31S-Disc shall I send again into EPROM(128 Kbytes)
> to appear '*' prompt ?
TF, TNC3BOX or (German only) TNC3BOXD are possible.
The script DIP1.scr has to match with these files.
> I would like to define my callsign, and new baudrate(57600baud etc),
> txdelay, time and so on.
Baudrate must be set within DIP1.scr.
Callsign etc. can be set at the * prompt and is stored
in RAM.
73! Ulf, DK9SJ
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:18:40 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp]
To: ulf@symek.de
Subject: Re: TNC31S
Hello Ulf, Thank you for your advice.
I send a editted DIP1.scr file and a needed program(TF or TNC3BOX)
by flash command into EPROM in TNC31S.
When applying power to the TNC, the following sign-on message was
appeared on PC, but the asterisk '*' prompt was not appeared after
both the following messages even though typing the escape [ESC]-key.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
In case of cd r:\
path r:\
rsconf 19200 1 no
tf
the following message was appeared on PC:
baud rate 19200, 1 start 1 stop, parity no
**********************************
* Multi Modem Firmware Emulation *
* Dam/TURBOXHOST Version 1.85 *
* (C) '93 - '00 by Jimy, DL1GJI *
* 10 channel 128KByte RAM *
**********************************
Modem 1: 9600 Baud
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
In case of cd r:\
path r:\
rsconf 19200 1 no
tnc3box
the following message was appeared on PC:
baud rate 19200, 1 start 1 stop, parity no
**********************************
* Multi Modem Firmware Emulation *
* DAMA Firmware Version 1.85 *
* TNC3BOX Version 1.35 *
* (C) '93 - '00 by Jimy, DL1GJI *
* 20 channel for Firmware *
* 10 channel for TNC3BOX *
**********************************
Modem 1: 9600 Baud
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
After these message, the asterisk '*' prompt was not appeared
even though typing the escape [ESC]-key. I'm setting a valid
19200 baud in the terminal program. When RS.EXE run again after
exit from this terminal program, RS don't run until I press the
internal reset-button in TNC31S while connecting power.
PS. Today is my birthday (46).
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:04:22 +0100
From: "Ulf Kumm" [ulf@symek.de]
To: "Mineo Wakita" [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp]
Subject: Re: TNC31S
- - - Ursprungliche Nachricht - - -
Von: "Mineo Wakita" [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp]
An: [ulf@symek.de]
Cc:[je9pel@jamsat.or.jp]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2001 12:18
Betreff: Re: TNC31S
> When applying power to the TNC, the following sign-on message was
> appeared on PC, but the asterisk '*' prompt was not appeared after
> both the following messages even though typing the escape [ESC]-key.
The sign-on is perfect, shows that terminal reads data from TNC.
But should read data from PC as well and has to react on the ESC
key by an *
Obviously, RS232 communication is possible in both ways, you could
send files to the TNC. But why is the ESC not recognised by TNC???
Try to use RS as terminal software. We had never problems with RS,
so this is best.
> cd r:\
> path r:\
> rsconf 19200 1 no
> tf
perfect. That's all you need to wake up with TF
> the following message was appeared on PC:
>
> baud rate 19200, 1 start 1 stop, parity no
> **********************************
> * Multi Modem Firmware Emulation *
> * Dam/TURBOXHOST Version 1.85 *
> * (C) '93 - '00 by Jimy, DL1GJI *
> * 10 channel 128KByte RAM *
> **********************************
> Modem 1: 9600 Baud
all correct. If you just press ESC now, the asterisk MUST appear.
If you use a different terminal program, maybe ESC has some special
function and is not sent to the TNC?
> After these message, the asterisk '*' prompt was not appeared
It appears not before pressing ESC
> even though typing the escape [ESC]-key. I'm setting a valid
> 19200 baud in the terminal program. When RS.EXE run again after
> exit from this terminal program, RS don't run until I press the
> internal reset-button in TNC31S while connecting power.
That's strange. RS will run always (however you see no message
unless power off / power on). But pressing RESET won't be necessary
as (see above) you defined RSCONF to 19200 which is RS defailt too.
> PS. Today is my birthday (46).
Ha! you are about 6 month younger than I am! Congratulations.
I wish you good health, have fun with your family and ...
get the ... TNC working soon !!!
73! Ulf, DK9SJ
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:48:46 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp]
To: ulf@symek.de
Subject: Re: TNC31S
Appeared the asterisk '*' prompt using RS !
When typing the escape [ESC]-key and the [ENTER]-key only first
in RS as terminal software, the asterisk '*' prompt was appeared !
I could set Callsign etc, at the * prompt.
A different terminal program that I was using, maybe ESC had some
special function.
When I can receive UO-36 and TiungSat 38k4 signals with WiSP32
in a few days, I will tell you the rx-report.
I'm MOST GRATEFUL to YOU and SYMEK Co. for your kindness advice.
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Reference
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I set up to registry for switching with WiSP, and set up to WiSP
as follows.
UO-36
Uplink 145.960MHz 9600 baud FSK
Downlink 437.400MHz 38400 baud FSK
Broadcast Callsign UO121-11
BBS Callsign UO121-12
TIUNGSAT-1
Uplink 145.850MHz 9600 baud FSK
Downlink 437.325MHz 38400 baud FSK
Broadcast callsign MYSAT3-11
BBS callsign MYSAT3-12
TS790 + TRX4S + TNC31S (SYMEK) or
TS790 + IFD + TNC31S (SYMEK)
where TRX4S is programming for example UO-36:
Z0=0435.0000 N 2 0437.4000
^^^^(dummy)
TNC31S (Dip1.scr) is programming for example UO-36:
cd r:\
path r:\
rsconf 38400 1 no
rskiss
I made and joined a Y-shaped (with 3 connectors) cable to
connect with TS790 + TRX4S + TNC31S.
The bandwidth of TRX4 RX is wider than required for 38400,
we may (just try this) have 5 or even more kHz offset without
loosing sensitivity. So, I think doppler compensation is really
NOT necessary.
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Subject: Re: tnc3s telem Ao-51
From: Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC)
Date: 2006, Jan 16, 17:52
First of all, you must get the TNC3S into kiss mode. There are two methods,
either setting the dip switches behind to power it up in kiss mode, or if
you have set it to power up in OS mode, then issue the command "rskiss" with
any terminal program first, before running tlmecho.
I personally use the latter method as I use rskiss with WISP and tlmecho
while I need to use "tf" with alogger to capture PCSAT2 9600 baud telemetry.
Now, this is my configuration file for tlmecho (cpbini.txt)
;init file for TlmEcho
;com port number. Valid ports are 1 thru 8
port 2
;port data rate. Must match the tnc
;supported settings: 9600, 19200, 38400, 57600, 115200
speed 115200
; y = init the tnc into kiss on startup
init n
; y = take the tnc out of kiss when program is quit, kissoff
kissoff n
; type of TNC. 'kpc' for kpc 9612, 'tapr' for tapr or pacomm or taper
equiv.
tnc = tapr
; Callsign is the Users Amateur Call
Callsign 9W2QC
; GridLoc is the Users Grid Locator
GridLoc OJ03TB
; Lat and Lon are the Users coordinates
;Lat 35.56
;Lon 86.76
port 2 ==> This is the com port of your TNC3S. Its com 2 in my case.
speed 115200 ==> This is the speed the TNC3S communicates with your
computer. Its 115200 in my case.
init n ==> This tells tlmecho not to send any initialization commands
to the TNC when it starts
kissoff n ==> This tells tlmecho not to bring the TNC out of kiss mode
when it exits
tnc=tapr ==> This is the only TNC type that seems to work
The other fields I guess are self explanatory.
Hope this helps and good luck with tlmecho.
73,
Sion Chow Q. C.,
9W2QC.
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